Curse

Evil Neato · Nov 20, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48

Well, it's been nearly 3 years since I've faced a Doppelganger on a Warrior.

I figure I could just go on my old Warrior and find an optimal build, but it'd probably be easier to just ask here instead.

So, for a W/Mo, what would be the best build to face the Doppelganger (Acension) in Prophecies?

Now, there's two answers I'm looking for... First would be an optimal build, and next would be a build without elites. Both to a W/Mo constraint. Skills can be from any campaign; but not PvE only skills.

I was thinking something like so:

[build prof=W/Mo][frenzy][deadly riposte][gladiator's defense][/build]

Which I'd assume works (haven't tried yet); but, I think it becomes a fair bit more difficult without elites, keeping W/Mo class.

Banane-O-Man · Nov 20, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21

Just bring frenzy with attack skills and spam them, do not use frenzy!

Vix · Nov 20, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23

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this bar always worked for me when i played a warrior
go figure...

EroChrono · Nov 20, 2008, 05:27 PM // 17:27

Wiki Guide

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Originally Posted by Wiki

Warrior
Equip Frenzy, but don't use it. The Doppelganger will, putting itself at a significant disadvantage. Couple this with a few attack skills, preferably energy-based so you use them right away, and it will go down very quickly.
The Doppelganger does not use a shield, so bringing skills that require a shield (such as Shield Stance and Shield Bash) gives a significant advantage.
Equip an attack combo from left to right in reverse order (such as Final Thrust, Gash, Sever Artery). The Doppelganger doesn't understand the order certain skills should be used in, and prioritizes them from left to right on the bar when they are charged.
Any skills that cause you to lose all adrenaline (such as Wild Blow) can be a great benefit. Ignore them yourself and let the Doppelganger waste its own adrenaline using them on you.
Hard Mode Notes
An easy method to kill the Doppelganger is to use block skills like Riposte, Deadly Riposte and Gladiator's Defense. Stand close to the Doppelganger so it can attack you with its axe, and block all its attacks.
The 'attack chain in reverse order' strategy will not work on Hard Mode.
The Doppelganger will not use Frenzy.

That should work, did the HM version yesterday and worked like a charm.

wind fire and ice · Nov 20, 2008, 05:47 PM // 17:47

[frenzy] you dont use it,he uses it,he dies.

therangereminem · Nov 20, 2008, 06:45 PM // 18:45

i always just did healing breeze and wanded him to death no matter if i was a ele sin or monk or warrior

for real it works every time al though frenzy woul dbe nice too lol just bring the old archine echo eah sig frenzy bar lol

Taisayacho · Nov 20, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20

[frenzy][healing breeze]
he never uses breeze, and just don't use frenzy and he'll go kaboom.

Buckles · Nov 20, 2008, 10:15 PM // 22:15

i did this yesterday on HM and NM just use this bar:
[ursan blessing][frenzy]
if you dont have ursan just bring:
[frenzy]PvE Skills with damage

/win

Kale Ironfist · Nov 21, 2008, 12:11 AM // 00:11

Try 14 weapon mastery, equip only Frenzy, and either
1. Use it
2. Do not use it.

either way, you win.

This won't work in Hard Mode, since it is higher level (more armor, health), has higher weapon mastery and attacks faster.

-Lotus- · Nov 21, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06

[frenzy][healing breeze]

he wont use healing breeze
you shouldnt use frenzy

MisterB · Nov 22, 2008, 07:00 AM // 07:00

Doppelganger will use [[Frenzied Defense] in Hard Mode, or at least he did when Hard Mode was introduced. Unsure if that has changed.

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 22, 2008, 07:29 AM // 07:29

But the blocking outweighs the double damage (otherwise it's be useless), so unless you plan to nuke him to death what's the point? There's [[Warrior's Cunning] I suppose, and other unblockable skills, but is there enough to make a build around?

Rushin Roulette · Nov 22, 2008, 07:39 AM // 07:39

[Reversal of damage] and [Retribution] also works wonders if you dont plan on attacking him yourself and would rather see him suicide.

(not quite as funny as the [Spiteful Spirit] [Insidious Parasite] Dance, but it will do)

MisterB · Nov 22, 2008, 08:24 AM // 08:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

But the blocking outweighs the double damage (otherwise it's be useless), so unless you plan to nuke him to death what's the point? There's [[Warrior's Cunning] I suppose, and other unblockable skills, but is there enough to make a build around?

I used:

[Balthazar's [email protected]][Auspicious [email protected]][[email protected]][Deadly [email protected]][Frenzied Defense][Enraging [email protected]][Dolyak [email protected]][watch [email protected]]

IIRC. I was being overly cautious because Hard Mode was new, and I was unsure of the difficulty. Doppelganger was literally the first thing I did in Hard Mode, and I was expecting a challenge.

[[Frenzied Defense] would be good with W/N Curses, but he is quite simple to defeat without going to all the trouble of devising builds. Build above will kill him, but it's overkill. [[Watch Yourself] won't stack with [[Dolyak Signet] anymore.
Many ways to skin that cat.

Neo Atomisk · Dec 02, 2008, 02:11 PM // 14:11

To be honest I just put 4-5 reses on him, frenzy, and mending.
All of this was for kicks, but just frenzy works fine.